Email received by Graham George Hawker, 18 June 2006 states:
"I see you have listed John Hawker born in Grafton (Beckford) 1834 and married to
ann Spiers (Spires) 1857.
Now they are my Great Great Grandparents, but strangely you don't mention his
daughter Mary Jane Hawker (my Great Grandmother born in Dumbleton in 1858. If
you are largely working off the 1881 census then Mary Jane was married in 1879 and
living in Elmley castle in Wor cestershire.
I have both Mary Jane Hawkers birth certificate giving her parents as John Hawker
(born Grafton 1834 ) and Ann Hawker, nee Spiers (born Ashton under Hill, born
1840, not 1836 as listed).
Do you have any clues to John Hawkers parentage? I thought perhaps the william
Hawker (born Sedgeberrow 1804) and living in grafton in 1851 was a possible?"
See notes for her mother, Ann Spiers
The burial of a Samuel Hawker aged 41 is recorded on 1 Feb 1823 in the Eldersfield parish register transcriptions of William Good.
Emails received by Graham George Hawker on 27 November 2002 from John Wesley Hawker:
Hi. My name is John Hawker, you may remember me from correspondence in
Genforum. At the time I was looking for info on my Grandparents and on. I now have
a concrete lineage back to John Hawker in Dumbleton in 1838, and good
assumptions prior to then. In your Hawker-Rock index you have my Great Great
Grandfather listed, James Hawker of Dumbleton, Glo..However, there appears to be
some errors in the lineage you have attached to him. James Hawker of Dumbleton
was born Sept. 25th, 1838... the 1851 census was completed in April and could lead
one to believe he was born in 1839. His Father (my GGG Grandfather) was John
Hawker born in 1808, and his Mother was Maria Vaile born in 1809 in Tewkesbury.
Vaile is also James middle name... James Vaile Hawker. John and Maria had 3 other
children as well... Maryann born 1833, William born 1836, and Jane born 1844. I
suspect Maryann lived in Dumbleton with Marias Mother Elizabeth Vale. Here is
where the index line goes awry... James did in fact move to Evesham and marry, but
not to Millicent Sallis. You clearly have 2 different James. My GG Grandfather, James
Vaile Hawker of Dumbleton, married Ann King of Evesham (Father Thomas King) on
Feb. 22, 1863. Together they had Arthur James Hawker, my G Grandfather. Arthur
James Hawker married Maria Barnes (a widow from Stafford), on March 18, 1888.
Together they had Albert George Hawker born 1892 and killed in WWI, Ethel Hawker
born 1893, my Grandfather John Arthur Hawker born April 15, 1896, died 1975
Canada, and Florrie Hawker born 1889. All were born in Evesham. John Arthur
Hawker married Edna Saunders of Cheltenham and emigrated to Canada in 1928,
had one child, my Father Lester Nigel Hawker born 1932, died 1985. Lester married
Annette Thompson of Toronto, Ontario born 1944, and had 3 children ... Ernest
Robert Thompson Hawker b. 1962, Janet Susan Anne Hawker b. 1963, and myself,
John Wesley Hawker b. 1965. Janet married Bob McCormack and had Sarah,
Emma, and Heather, Ernest married Deborah Sloat and had Braedon, Ryan, Katie,
and Delaney Hawker. I married Diane Lee (swedish and a direct relation to Ernest
Estwing founder of Estwing tools) and we had Jesse Aaron Hawker born 1995, and
Cole Franklin Hawker born 1999. We all live in the area of Vancouver British
Columbia, Janet nearer to Whistler. As far as James is concerned, there is no doubt
in that I have his marriage and birth records as well as census records. My recently
discovered family Bible circa 1880s lists Arthur, James Vaile, Ann, John, and Maria. I
do not have any concrete information John b.1808 however. Your index suggest he
is from Withington. Do you know of any connections prior
Regards,
John HawkerHi Graham. I looked through my records again and then again in the 1901 census.
The James Hawker born in Dumbleton in 1838 who married Millicent Sallis in
Evesham, apparently lived next door to my Grandfather and his parents, Arthur and
Maria. They lived at 34 High St., and my Grandfather at 35 High St.. I simply cannot
believe this could be coincidence. I then checked the 1901 census for Ann Hawker
and she was nowhere to be found. James Vaile Hawker married Ann King in 1863
and had my Great Grandfather Arthur also in 1863, then I have to assume sometime
between then and 1870 Ann passed away and James remarried-Millicent Sallis- and
had 2 more children, Rosamond and Albert E.. I will try to search for more evidence,
but I cannot believe there could be 2 James Hawkers from Dumbleton, born the
same year, both moving to Evesham and the unrelated one living next door to my G
Grandparents. In any event, apologies are in order as it appears your James Hawker
is correct in part after all.
Regards,
John Hawker
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