Information sent by email from Cynthia Bean to Graham George Hawker on 13 March 2002:
"Acouple of amendments and additions if you want them.
William Hawker (b17.01.1849) Miles Simmons married Sarah ?Unknown.
Miles died before Emma married William Hawker.
Sarah Simmons married John Jones.George Hawker bapt. 6 October 1823. Taken from the Church Register Glos.RO
Hannah James (George's wife) bapt. 16 April 1824. From IGI and supplied by Joss White a
descent of John James.George and Hannah married 23 Dec. 1844. Have a copy of the marriage certificate.
George Lane - Miner - married Charlotte Sterry at Holy Trinity Drybrook on 28.01.1872. Both
resided at Bilson, Glos. George's Father was John Lane (deceased) Labourer. Charlotte's
Father John Sterry - labourer.
Have a copy of the marriage certificate.George Lane died 19 September 1883, aged 42 of Apoplesy Paralysis. Occ. Coalminer
Made one or two other discoveries, but haven't checked them out yet. Such as Hannah
Hawker re-married when she was in her mid-60's. "
Email from Colin and Stella Smith on 15 April 2002 to Graham George Hawker states:
It seems that we have common interest in the Shakespeare clan, my mother Joan (nee
Shakespeare) , father was John 1890- 1976
His father Daniel 1856 - 1950 ,Dudley,Worcester.
His father Daniel 1827 - ? , " "
His father James 1808 - 1848
This info came from my mother, who lives in Yorkshire and seems too much to be just
coincidence .This was then confirmed in an email on 6 May 2002 which states:
We have been in touch with colin's Mum and she confirms that the Daniel Shakespeare you
have on your family tree is her grandfather.
There are only a couple of things that she told us though, which differ from your pedigree.
On the 1861 census it shows Daniel Shakespeare living in Dudley, with wife Eliza (Price), son
James age 10, daughter Cecila (?) age 6, son Daniel age 4. Daniel had four brothers, James,
John, Aaron and Luke.
Aaron and his wife Esther and their adult daughter Esther and her son Bernard Moore went to
America on the Campania in February 1907. They settled in Pittsburgh. (I have photos of
Esther and her daughter and g/son, also of Bernard when they were in America and Esther jnr
when she joined the Salvation Army which I have sent you.)
John went to Toronto about 1885. He married Francis Moore. they moved to Illinois where
their children were born. Haden 1889, Frances 1894, Leslie 1896 and Don 1899. I will send
you a transcript of the Family History of John Shakespeare as written by Tom Stobbs,
Grandson of Daniel,m as soon as I can.
Daniel went to America for a short time, but found that the ups and downs of life there did not
suit him and he returned to England. He married Ann Burns in 1890 but she died in 1895,
possibly in childbirth. He remarried Elizabeth Perry and they had one daugher Miriam. Ann
and Daniel had John, Catherine, & Alice. As far as Colin's Mum knows he did not have any
other children, so we don't believe that Cecil and Ivy were his. Possibly the inscription on the
back of the photo was correct and they belong to Daniel Clarke.
Email from Colin and Stella Smith on 15 April 2002 to Graham George Hawker states:
It seems that we have common interest in the Shakespeare clan, my mother Joan (nee
Shakespeare) , father was John 1890- 1976
His father Daniel 1856 - 1950 ,Dudley,Worcester.
His father Daniel 1827 - ? , " "
His father James 1808 - 1848
This info came from my mother, who lives in Yorkshire and seems too much to be just
coincidence .This was then confirmed in an email on 6 May 2002 which states:
We have been in touch with colin's Mum and she confirms that the Daniel Shakespeare you
have on your family tree is her grandfather.
There are only a couple of things that she told us though, which differ from your pedigree.
On the 1861 census it shows Daniel Shakespeare living in Dudley, with wife Eliza (Price), son
James age 10, daughter Cecila (?) age 6, son Daniel age 4. Daniel had four brothers, James,
John, Aaron and Luke.
Aaron and his wife Esther and their adult daughter Esther and her son Bernard Moore went to
America on the Campania in February 1907. They settled in Pittsburgh. (I have photos of
Esther and her daughter and g/son, also of Bernard when they were in America and Esther jnr
when she joined the Salvation Army which I have sent you.)
John went to Toronto about 1885. He married Francis Moore. they moved to Illinois where
their children were born. Haden 1889, Frances 1894, Leslie 1896 and Don 1899. I will send
you a transcript of the Family History of John Shakespeare as written by Tom Stobbs,
Grandson of Daniel,m as soon as I can.
Daniel went to America for a short time, but found that the ups and downs of life there did not
suit him and he returned to England. He married Ann Burns in 1890 but she died in 1895,
possibly in childbirth. He remarried Elizabeth Perry and they had one daugher Miriam. Ann
and Daniel had John, Catherine, & Alice. As far as Colin's Mum knows he did not have any
other children, so we don't believe that Cecil and Ivy were his. Possibly the inscription on the
back of the photo was correct and they belong to Daniel Clarke.
Email from Colin and Stella Smith on 15 April 2002 to Graham George Hawker states:
It seems that we have common interest in the Shakespeare clan, my mother Joan (nee
Shakespeare) , father was John 1890- 1976
His father Daniel 1856 - 1950 ,Dudley,Worcester.
His father Daniel 1827 - ? , " "
His father James 1808 - 1848
This info came from my mother, who lives in Yorkshire and seems too much to be just
coincidence .This was then confirmed in an email on 6 May 2002 which states:
We have been in touch with colin's Mum and she confirms that the Daniel Shakespeare you
have on your family tree is her grandfather.
There are only a couple of things that she told us though, which differ from your pedigree.
On the 1861 census it shows Daniel Shakespeare living in Dudley, with wife Eliza (Price), son
James age 10, daughter Cecila (?) age 6, son Daniel age 4. Daniel had four brothers, James,
John, Aaron and Luke.
Aaron and his wife Esther and their adult daughter Esther and her son Bernard Moore went to
America on the Campania in February 1907. They settled in Pittsburgh. (I have photos of
Esther and her daughter and g/son, also of Bernard when they were in America and Esther jnr
when she joined the Salvation Army which I have sent you.)
John went to Toronto about 1885. He married Francis Moore. they moved to Illinois where
their children were born. Haden 1889, Frances 1894, Leslie 1896 and Don 1899. I will send
you a transcript of the Family History of John Shakespeare as written by Tom Stobbs,
Grandson of Daniel,m as soon as I can.
Daniel went to America for a short time, but found that the ups and downs of life there did not
suit him and he returned to England. He married Ann Burns in 1890 but she died in 1895,
possibly in childbirth. He remarried Elizabeth Perry and they had one daugher Miriam. Ann
and Daniel had John, Catherine, & Alice. As far as Colin's Mum knows he did not have any
other children, so we don't believe that Cecil and Ivy were his. Possibly the inscription on the
back of the photo was correct and they belong to Daniel Clarke.
Email from Colin and Stella Smith on 15 April 2002 to Graham George Hawker states:
It seems that we have common interest in the Shakespeare clan, my mother Joan (nee
Shakespeare) , father was John 1890- 1976
His father Daniel 1856 - 1950 ,Dudley,Worcester.
His father Daniel 1827 - ? , " "
His father James 1808 - 1848
This info came from my mother, who lives in Yorkshire and seems too much to be just
coincidence .This was then confirmed in an email on 6 May 2002 which states:
We have been in touch with colin's Mum and she confirms that the Daniel Shakespeare you
have on your family tree is her grandfather.
There are only a couple of things that she told us though, which differ from your pedigree.
On the 1861 census it shows Daniel Shakespeare living in Dudley, with wife Eliza (Price), son
James age 10, daughter Cecila (?) age 6, son Daniel age 4. Daniel had four brothers, James,
John, Aaron and Luke.
Aaron and his wife Esther and their adult daughter Esther and her son Bernard Moore went to
America on the Campania in February 1907. They settled in Pittsburgh. (I have photos of
Esther and her daughter and g/son, also of Bernard when they were in America and Esther jnr
when she joined the Salvation Army which I have sent you.)
John went to Toronto about 1885. He married Francis Moore. they moved to Illinois where
their children were born. Haden 1889, Frances 1894, Leslie 1896 and Don 1899. I will send
you a transcript of the Family History of John Shakespeare as written by Tom Stobbs,
Grandson of Daniel,m as soon as I can.
Daniel went to America for a short time, but found that the ups and downs of life there did not
suit him and he returned to England. He married Ann Burns in 1890 but she died in 1895,
possibly in childbirth. He remarried Elizabeth Perry and they had one daugher Miriam. Ann
and Daniel had John, Catherine, & Alice. As far as Colin's Mum knows he did not have any
other children, so we don't believe that Cecil and Ivy were his. Possibly the inscription on the
back of the photo was correct and they belong to Daniel Clarke.
Email from Joanne Lewis to Graham George Hawker on Wed, 12 May 2004
"Just a quick line to say that I have found an exact copy of the photo on your family
tree website the one of "Aunty Sue and Uncle Jim Shakespeare" plus I have others of
some other photos of some of your relatives that u may not have seen.
Let me know if I have the right address and I will forward them to you.
Regards Joanne Lewis (Great Great granddaughter of Jim Shakespeare and
Susannah Perry)."
Email from Joanne Lewis to Graham George Hawker on Wed, 12 May 2004
"Just a quick line to say that I have found an exact copy of the photo on your family
tree website the one of "Aunty Sue and Uncle Jim Shakespeare" plus I have others of
some other photos of some of your relatives that u may not have seen.
Let me know if I have the right address and I will forward them to you.
Regards Joanne Lewis (Great Great granddaughter of Jim Shakespeare and
Susannah Perry)."Posting on Perry Family genealogy forum of genforum.genealogy.com on 8 May 2004:
"Dear Rona
I am currently searching for my family with the surname Perry too and I believe they were from Dudley, Worcs and Rowley Regis, Staffs.
I haven't got a lot of info on dates at all at the moment but I do know that my Great Great Grandmother was Susannah Perry before she married James H Shakespeare. I do not even know birth/death dates but I do know that they had 8 children (Ada B, Alexander, Charles H, Elizabeth, James, James H Jnr, Susannah, Miriam = my great grandmother).
If you find out anymore I would really love to hear from you. I will forward any info I receive to you also.
Regards Jo"
Stella Smith, wife of Colin Smith who is the great grandson of Daniel Shakeseare, supplied several photos in an email to Graham George Hawker dated 14 September 2002 with the comment:
"I have attached a couple of the photos I promised and will look through
to see if there is anything else which might be of interest.Daniel Shakespeare circa 1940s
Daniel & second wife with:
Miriam (born to second wife), Alice & KateColin's mum Joan Smith (nee Shakespeare)"
Message by email from Doug Leckie on 5 May 2001:
One other piece of information Mum remembered is that Daniel Clarke, brother of Cecilia et.al., went to live in South Africa. Whether or not he went to Capetown where Edith and Ernest settled temporarily I don't know.Email from Anthony Haywood to Graham George Hawker 3 August 2002, quoting a handwritten note written by Anthony's mother Ann (nee Hawker):
Nan H was bore at Cleobury Mortimer in 1880
James Shakespeare dies at Haywood Basin, Halesowen by Walter Somer's factory
and his wife was drowns in the same basin in the fog.
Nan H's family..1.Dan went to Durban, Sth Africa and had 3 children, Cecil,
Lucy, Phylis ( I have pictures of all these..that is AJH does )..all are dead
Phylis died about 1966. 2. William married Florence Lloyd and had One child
Frank, still alive in 1992. He left his wife and when she died he married
again in Wales. 3. Cecilia. 4. Edith, went with Dan to S/Afr but then went
onto Melbourne OZ, she had 3 children, Ernest, Winnie born in UK ( who is
still alive photo enclosed a) with John ( Wally ) her husband in 1995 at
Malvern and b) in 2002 taken by Antonia who went to see her in Victoria.
Florence Joan born in OZ ( Chris and I met them at their brother's house in
Q'Land in 1983 on a trip they mad to see us from Melbourne..they are now dead
), they lived in Briggalong, I have their address. 5. Eva Cissie, married
Fred Scott who was Director of ?? Moores the leather company in
Walsall....( I remeber Aunty Eva well as she was a great swimmer at Bloxwich
Baths and taught both Jean and I to swim, they have a son freddy and I have
photos of Freddy and his wife and kids, Mom says they live at Church Stretton
but i only remeber them at Walsall when we went to the football together,
they had stand seats and used to get me In, this is after my Dad died. 6.
Frank who marries Dora Hitch. no kids he then married Ivy Hall after Aunty
dora died she was the widow of Cecil Hawker, Granda's half brother.
Great Granddad Thomas Hawker married Jane Ward 1882 and 2 kids Reg Tom and
George, he then married Jane's sister Ann and had 7 kids...Wm..... Nellie,
James, Cecil, Alice Charles Then One I can't read.. ..she married and went to
America and had 2 kids One of each sex.
Uncle Sam lived at Bedlam, Bitterley near Ludlow Shropshire..Nan H stayed
there when she was about 8/10 years old, at that time they had 2 kids..Sam
and Molly. I've got a photo of granddad looking over a Farm gate with
chickens etc. could be taken at this Farm.
I know you'll have lots of this but its a note from Mom written on an old
Christmas card so is in her handwriting.
From Transcripts of Parish registers of St Giles Church, Willenhall by P. Galloway found on:
http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/stgiles.htm
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