Posting on genforum.genealogy.com in the Shakespeare surname on 8 May 2004 by Joanne Lewis:
Hello my name is Jo, and I am stuck in the depths of my family tree and wondered if you may be able to assist me?? My great grandmother was Miriam Shakespeare, daughter of Susannah Perry (suspect died in 1923) and James H Shakespeare. I know that Miriam lived in Old Hill in Dudley, Worcestershire and some of the family have done so ever since. I also know that Miriam had many siblings, including: Ada B Shakespeare (d ~1970) Alexander Shakespeare Charles H Shakespeare Elizabeth Shakespeare James Shakespeare James H (Jnr) Shakespeare Susannah Shakespeare (d ~1975) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jo
Reply from Rosemary Worthing 16 May 2004:Hi Joanne, This is your family on the 1881 ensus:- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James Henry SHAKESPEARS Head M Male 31 Kates Hill, Worcester, England Coal Miner Susanna SHAKESPEARS Wife M Female 30 Kates Hill, Worcester, England Dress Maker Elizabeth Eliza SHAKESPEARS Daur Female 6 Kates Hill, Worcester, England Scholar Charles Henry SHAKESPEARS Son Male 4 Kates Hill, Worcester, England Scholar Elizabeth PERRY Mother W Female 60 Shropshire, England Formerly A Laundress Source Information: Dwelling Haywood Basin House Census Place The Hill, Worcester, England Family History Library Film 1341692 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2885 / 36 Page Number 65 Hows that for luck you get Grandmother too. I also have them on 1891 with Miriam but its late now so will send that to you tomorrow. Hill is now Hill and Cakemore part of Halesowen - it sort of between halesowen and Old Hill.
and on 17 May 2004:Hi Joanne 1891 census as promised:- James H Shakespeare - Head - aged 41 - Occupation unreadable - born Dudley, Worcestershire Susannah Shakespeare - wife - aged 40 - born Dudley Worcs Elizabeth E Shakespeare- daur - aged 16 - born Dudley, Worcs Charles H Shakespeare - son - aged 14 - born Dudley, Worcs Miriam Shakespeare - aged 9 - born Halesowen, Worcs James H Shakespeare - aged 5 - born Halesowen, Worcs Alexander Shakespeare - son - aged 3 - born Halesowen Worcs Elizabeth Perry - Mother in Law - aged 70 - born Shropshire
Work done on this line by Jean Tomkins (nee Hawker) up to 1992 and contained in a letter she wrote to George and Rbbinia Hawker dated 16 February 1992 show the parents of William (husband of Rebecca Hadley) to be John Clarke and Ann (nee Swain).
Email from Emma-Jane Maddern to Graham George Hawker dated 5 April 2005 states:
Ceciley HARVEY was born in 1806. She bet. 1851-1881 in Still alive in 1851 Census (Dudley, WOR,) England.
Ceciley married (1) John PRICE on 08 Jun 1824 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England.
They had the following children:
Mary PRICE was born in 1824. She was christened on 11 Jul 1824 in Church Gresley.
Eliza PRICE was born in 1825 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England. She was christened on 18 Sep 1825 in St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire, England.
John Henry PRICE 1 was born on 25 Mar 1827 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England. He was christened on 15 Apr 1827 in St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire, England.
Ceciley married (2) John CROSS on 28 Apr 1828 in St Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England. John was born in 1805. He died bet. 1851-1881 in Still alive in 1851 Census (Dudley, WOR,) England.
They had the following children:
Elizabeth CROSS was born in 1831 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England.
Ann Emma CROSS was born in 1833 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England. She was christened on 22 Dec 1833 in St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire, England. She died in Bet 1872-1913 in Austrialia.
Ann married2 (1) Henry STANLEY son of William STANLEY and Sarah SMART on 25 Dec 1847 in Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England (c). Henry was born in 1829 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England. He died in 1868.
Ann married3,4 (2) Robert DAVIS on 08 Nov 1869 in Registrar's Office, Fitzroy, Victoria #4684. Robert was born in 1819 in Norfolk, England.Charles CROSS was born in 1835 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England.
Hannah CROSS was born in 1836 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England.
John Charles CROSS was born in 1839 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England. He died in 1851/1881.
Enoch CROSS was born in 1842 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England. He died5 in 1901.
Enoch married SARAH in 1870. SARAH was born6 in 1845. She died in 1901.
Appendix A - Sources
1. LDS-IGI-Internet, 06 Feb 2005.
2. Marriage Certificate - Private Collection (EJM), 01 Apr 2005, .Source Media Type: Official Document.
3. Victorian Registry of Birth, Deaths & Marriages BDM Index, .Source Media Type: Book.
4. Marriage Certificate - Private Collection (EJM).
5. 1881 British Census-Private Collection.
6. 1881 British Census-Private Collection.
Surname provided by Jean Tomkins (nee Hawker) to Ann Haywood (nee Hawker) in a letter dated 16 February 1992)
Email from Emma-Jane Maddern to Graham George Hawker dated 5 April 2005 states:
Still alive in 1851 Census (Dudley, WOR,) England.
A champion swimmer, taught Charles Webb (Channel Swimmer) to swim at Bloxwich baths according to Anthony Haywood in a telephone conversation 6 June 2002.
Emma-Jane Maddern sent the following to Graham George Hawker by email on 4 April 2005:
Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913Surname: MANNING
Given Names: Clifton Jos
Event: B
Spouse Surname/Father: Geo
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Maud Annie WATSON
Birth Place: FITZROY SOUTH
Death Place:
Year: 1909
Reg. Number: 27221
Email to Graham George Hawker from Ken Holloway dated 15 July 2002:
"My Edward Cooper is the one you mentioned bapt. 23 Jan 1809, the son of Joseph Cooper and
Priscilla Harvey. I have obtained most of my information on the Coopers of Bloxwich from Pat
Hayward. According to Pat, Joseph was bapt. 12 Dec 1756 in Wednesbury, the son of Joseph
Cooper and Ann Baylies, who married 29 May 1750 at Wednesbury. There was also a Joseph,
bapt 24 Mar 1752, but I do not know where he fits in - he could possibly have died young. I
have no record of your John Cooper, b. in 1858."
Email to Graham George Hawker from Ken Holloway dated 15 July 2002:
"My Edward Cooper is the one you mentioned bapt. 23 Jan 1809, the son of Joseph Cooper and
Priscilla Harvey. I have obtained most of my information on the Coopers of Bloxwich from Pat
Hayward. According to Pat, Joseph was bapt. 12 Dec 1756 in Wednesbury, the son of Joseph
Cooper and Ann Baylies, who married 29 May 1750 at Wednesbury. There was also a Joseph,
bapt 24 Mar 1752, but I do not know where he fits in - he could possibly have died young. I
have no record of your John Cooper, b. in 1858."
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