Email received by Graham George Hawker on 9 September 2002:
"Dear Mr.Hawker,
I have enjoyed looking at your new web site, what a lot of hard work.Well done!
Muriel Dewson was the daughter of my great uncle Henry Harold Dewson, born 27/11/1887.My
grandfather was Frederick Dewson born 22/11/1867.My father was Leonard Alan Dewson born
20/4/1910.All were born in Walsall.I myself was born in Gloucestershire.
Best Wishes from
Adrienne Martin nee Dewson"
Email received by Graham George Hawker on 9 September 2002:
"Dear Mr.Hawker,
I have enjoyed looking at your new web site, what a lot of hard work.Well done!
Muriel Dewson was the daughter of my great uncle Henry Harold Dewson, born 27/11/1887.My
grandfather was Frederick Dewson born 22/11/1867.My father was Leonard Alan Dewson born
20/4/1910.All were born in Walsall.I myself was born in Gloucestershire.
Best Wishes from
Adrienne Martin nee Dewson"
Email received by Graham George Hawker on 9 September 2002:
"Dear Mr.Hawker,
I have enjoyed looking at your new web site, what a lot of hard work.Well done!
Muriel Dewson was the daughter of my great uncle Henry Harold Dewson, born 27/11/1887.My
grandfather was Frederick Dewson born 22/11/1867.My father was Leonard Alan Dewson born
20/4/1910.All were born in Walsall.I myself was born in Gloucestershire.
Best Wishes from
Adrienne Martin nee Dewson"
Evidence for this rather shaky. The 1871 census for Linkend Lane Eldersfield (RG10/3056 Folio 77 Page 27) shows Thomas Griffin aged 52, son-in-law of Giles Hawker. A search of the 1851 census for Gloucestershire using Gordon Beavington's transcript index shows a Thomas Griffin aged 32, living in Cheltenham married to a Jane aged 30 born in Eldersfield. The coincidence is suggestive so I have assumed this couple to be Thomas Griffin and Jane Hawker, daughter of Giles and Maria of Eldersfield. A search for the marriage between 1837 and 1851 is necessary to prove the hypothesis.
The 1851 census details are:
P.R.O. Reference # HO 107/1973
Cheltenham Part I.
SECTION 1
Part of High Street, Woods Road, Bath Road, Thurlstone Road,. Paragon Terrace Paragon
Buildings, Bath Villas & Mews. Otis Cottages Belmore Field, SandfordMitre Street, Bath
Parade Street, Albert Cottages Vernon Place & Mill Lane Bath Street.
Pages 52 Persons 434 Male 587 Female 1024 Total
Enumerator John Carpenter
113
GRIFFIN Thomas 31 Servant Sonesfield Oxon
Jane 30 Dressmaker Eldersfield
Evidence for this rather shaky. The 1871 census for Linkend Lane Eldersfield (RG10/3056 Folio 77 Page 27) shows Thomas Griffin aged 52, son-in-law of Giles Hawker. A search of the 1851 census for Gloucestershire using Gordon Beavington's transcript index shows a Thomas Griffin aged 32, living in Cheltenham married to a Jane aged 30 born in Eldersfield. The coincidence is suggestive so I have assumed this couple to be Thomas Griffin and Jane Hawker, daughter of Giles and Maria of Eldersfield. A search for the marriage between 1837 and 1851 is necessary to prove the hypothesis.
The 1851 census details are:
P.R.O. Reference # HO 107/1973
Cheltenham Part I.
SECTION 1
Part of High Street, Woods Road, Bath Road, Thurlstone Road,. Paragon Terrace Paragon
Buildings, Bath Villas & Mews. Otis Cottages Belmore Field, SandfordMitre Street, Bath
Parade Street, Albert Cottages Vernon Place & Mill Lane Bath Street.
Pages 52 Persons 434 Male 587 Female 1024 Total
Enumerator John Carpenter
113
GRIFFIN Thomas 31 Servant Sonesfield Oxon
Jane 30 Dressmaker Eldersfield
CENSUS:Grandaughter of Giles and Maria at Linkend Lane Ref: RG10/3056 Folio 77 Page 27
Emails received by Graham George Hawker on 27 November 2002 from John Wesley Hawker:
Hi. My name is John Hawker, you may remember me from correspondence in
Genforum. At the time I was looking for info on my Grandparents and on. I now have
a concrete lineage back to John Hawker in Dumbleton in 1838, and good
assumptions prior to then. In your Hawker-Rock index you have my Great Great
Grandfather listed, James Hawker of Dumbleton, Glo..However, there appears to be
some errors in the lineage you have attached to him. James Hawker of Dumbleton
was born Sept. 25th, 1838... the 1851 census was completed in April and could lead
one to believe he was born in 1839. His Father (my GGG Grandfather) was John
Hawker born in 1808, and his Mother was Maria Vaile born in 1809 in Tewkesbury.
Vaile is also James middle name... James Vaile Hawker. John and Maria had 3 other
children as well... Maryann born 1833, William born 1836, and Jane born 1844. I
suspect Maryann lived in Dumbleton with Marias Mother Elizabeth Vale. Here is
where the index line goes awry... James did in fact move to Evesham and marry, but
not to Millicent Sallis. You clearly have 2 different James. My GG Grandfather, James
Vaile Hawker of Dumbleton, married Ann King of Evesham (Father Thomas King) on
Feb. 22, 1863. Together they had Arthur James Hawker, my G Grandfather. Arthur
James Hawker married Maria Barnes (a widow from Stafford), on March 18, 1888.
Together they had Albert George Hawker born 1892 and killed in WWI, Ethel Hawker
born 1893, my Grandfather John Arthur Hawker born April 15, 1896, died 1975
Canada, and Florrie Hawker born 1889. All were born in Evesham. John Arthur
Hawker married Edna Saunders of Cheltenham and emigrated to Canada in 1928,
had one child, my Father Lester Nigel Hawker born 1932, died 1985. Lester married
Annette Thompson of Toronto, Ontario born 1944, and had 3 children ... Ernest
Robert Thompson Hawker b. 1962, Janet Susan Anne Hawker b. 1963, and myself,
John Wesley Hawker b. 1965. Janet married Bob McCormack and had Sarah,
Emma, and Heather, Ernest married Deborah Sloat and had Braedon, Ryan, Katie,
and Delaney Hawker. I married Diane Lee (swedish and a direct relation to Ernest
Estwing founder of Estwing tools) and we had Jesse Aaron Hawker born 1995, and
Cole Franklin Hawker born 1999. We all live in the area of Vancouver British
Columbia, Janet nearer to Whistler. As far as James is concerned, there is no doubt
in that I have his marriage and birth records as well as census records. My recently
discovered family Bible circa 1880s lists Arthur, James Vaile, Ann, John, and Maria. I
do not have any concrete information John b.1808 however. Your index suggest he
is from Withington. Do you know of any connections prior
Regards,
John HawkerHi Graham. I looked through my records again and then again in the 1901 census.
The James Hawker born in Dumbleton in 1838 who married Millicent Sallis in
Evesham, apparently lived next door to my Grandfather and his parents, Arthur and
Maria. They lived at 34 High St., and my Grandfather at 35 High St.. I simply cannot
believe this could be coincidence. I then checked the 1901 census for Ann Hawker
and she was nowhere to be found. James Vaile Hawker married Ann King in 1863
and had my Great Grandfather Arthur also in 1863, then I have to assume sometime
between then and 1870 Ann passed away and James remarried-Millicent Sallis- and
had 2 more children, Rosamond and Albert E.. I will try to search for more evidence,
but I cannot believe there could be 2 James Hawkers from Dumbleton, born the
same year, both moving to Evesham and the unrelated one living next door to my G
Grandparents. In any event, apologies are in order as it appears your James Hawker
is correct in part after all.
Regards,
John Hawker
Email received by Graham George Hawker on 27 November 2002 from John Wesley Hawker:
I thought you may be interested to know a
liitle side info on my G Grandfather, Arthur. In 1881, he was a servant in Evesham for
Herbert New, then on his Marriage Certificate with Maria Barnes in 1888, he is said to
be a Postman. Perhaps that is how he took a bride from Stafford. Then by 1893 and
on, he is a Milkseller-Shopkeeper (per my Great Aunt Ethels birth certificate). Also,
my Great Uncle Albert was in the Glo. Regiment 1st Bn. and was killed at the battle
of Aubers, May 9, 1915, PasdeCalais, France. My Grandfather, John, was also there
and survived obviously.
Email received by Graham George Hawker on 27 November 2002 from John Wesley Hawker:
I thought you may be interested to know a
liitle side info on my G Grandfather, Arthur. In 1881, he was a servant in Evesham for
Herbert New, then on his Marriage Certificate with Maria Barnes in 1888, he is said to
be a Postman. Perhaps that is how he took a bride from Stafford. Then by 1893 and
on, he is a Milkseller-Shopkeeper (per my Great Aunt Ethels birth certificate). Also,
my Great Uncle Albert was in the Glo. Regiment 1st Bn. and was killed at the battle
of Aubers, May 9, 1915, PasdeCalais, France. My Grandfather, John, was also there
and survived obviously.Email received by Graham George Hawker on 24 December 2002 from Annette Spurrell:
The following is James Vaile Hawker's Grandson, Albert.
He was the eldest son of Arthur. He was killed during the First World War. So obviously Albert had
no heirs. I do not know yet if Ethel or Florrie married and had any children. Albert's name also
appears on the memorial in Evesham.
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Debt of Honour Register
In Memory ofALBERT HAWKER
Private
7486
1st Bn., Gloucestershire Regimentwho died on
Sunday 9 May 1915 .
Cemetery: LE TOURET MEMORIALPas de Calais, France
Grave or Reference Panel Number: Panel 17
Location: Le Touret Memorial is located at the east end of Le Touret Military Cemetery,
on the south side of the Bethune-Armentieres main road. From Bethune follow the signs for
Armentieres until you are on the D171. Continue on this road through Essars and Le Touret village.
Approximately 1 kilometre after Le Touret village and about 5 kilometres before you reach the
intersection with the D947, Estaires to La Bassee road, the Cemetery lies on the right hand side of
the road. The Memorial takes the form of a loggia surrounding an open rectangular court. The court
is enclosed by three solid walls and on the eastern side by a colonnade. East of the colonnade is a
wall and the colonnade and wall are prolonged northwards (to the road) and southwards, forming a
long gallery. Small pavilions mark the ends of the gallery and the western corners of the court. The
names of those commemorated are listed on panels set into the walls of the court and the gallery,
arranged by Regiment, Rank and alphabetically by surname within the rank. Over 13,000 names are
listed on the memorial of men who fell in this area before 25 September 1915 and who have no known
grave.
Visiting Information: The Panel Numbers quoted at the end of each entry relate to the
panels dedicated to the Regiment served with. In some instances where a casualty is recorded as
attached to another Regiment, his name may alternatively appear within their Regimental Panels.
Please refer to the on-site Memorial Register Introduction to determine the alternative panel
numbers if you do not find the name within the quoted Panels.
Historical Information: The Memorial in Le Touret Military Cemetery, Richebourg-l'Avoue,
is one of those erected by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission to record the names of the
officers and men who fell in the Great War and whose graves are not known. It serves the area
enclosed on the North by the river Lys and a line drawn from Estaires to Fournes, and on the South
by the old Southern boundary of the First Army about Grenay; and it covers the period from the
arrival of the II Corps in Flanders in 1914 to the eve of the Battle of Loos. It does not include
the names of officers and men of Canadian or Indian regiments; they are found on the Memorials at
Vimy and Neuve-Chapelle
In Memory of
Private ALBERT HAWKER7486, 1st Bn., Gloucestershire Regiment
who died
on Sunday 9 May 1915.
Remembered with honour
LE TOURET MEMORIAL
Email to Graham George Hawker from Anette Spurrell 24Dec2002"I am enclosing copies of the ships registries for your perusal. These are the ships that John
Arthur Hawker and Edna Saunders immigrated to Canada on. I thought this might be of general
interest to you.
Immigration Records (1925-1935)
Surname: Hawker
Given name: Edna Kath.
Age: 24
Sex:F
Nationality: En
Date of arrival: 1928/07/08 (YYYY/MM/DD)
Port of arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Ship: ALBERTIC , White Star
Reference: RG76 - IMMIGRATION, series C-1-a
Volume: 1928 volume 13 Page: 143
Microfilm reel: T-14744
Surname: Hawker
Given name: John Arthur
Age: 33
Sex: M
Nationality: En
Date of arrival: 1928/07/08 (YYYY/MM/DD)
Port of arrival: Quebec , Quebec
Ship: ALBERTIC , White Star
Reference: RG76 - IMMIGRATION, series C-1-a
Volume: 1928 volume 13 Page: 143
Microfilm reel: T-14744
Note: John married Edna Saunders"
Email to Graham George Hawker from Anette Spurrell 24Dec2002
"I am enclosing copies of the ships registries for your perusal. These are the ships that John
Arthur Hawker and Edna Saunders immigrated to Canada on. I thought this might be of general
interest to you.
Immigration Records (1925-1935)
Surname: Hawker
Given name: Edna Kath.
Age: 24
Sex:F
Nationality: En
Date of arrival: 1928/07/08 (YYYY/MM/DD)
Port of arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Ship: ALBERTIC , White Star
Reference: RG76 - IMMIGRATION, series C-1-a
Volume: 1928 volume 13 Page: 143
Microfilm reel: T-14744
Surname: Hawker
Given name: John Arthur
Age: 33
Sex: M
Nationality: En
Date of arrival: 1928/07/08 (YYYY/MM/DD)
Port of arrival: Quebec , Quebec
Ship: ALBERTIC , White Star
Reference: RG76 - IMMIGRATION, series C-1-a
Volume: 1928 volume 13 Page: 143
Microfilm reel: T-14744
Note: John married Edna Saunders"
Email received by Graham George Hawker on 27 November 2002 from Annette Hawker-Spurrell:
My name is Annette Hawker-Spurrell. I am remarried as my husband Lester Nigel Hawker
passed away in 1985.
My family have been working research on and off for the past few years without much success
but this year we have made considerable progress.
We have birth and marriage certificates back to 1838, which brings me to you. ( I believe that
you have also spoken with my son John-Wesley)
We have a birth certificate for James Vaile Hawker (the family bible spells it James Vale
Hawker) He was born in Dumbleton on September 25, 1838 to the parents of John Hawker and
Maria Hawker formerly Vaile. The father's occupation was agricultural labourer. If you go to
the 1851 census for Dumbleton (#81) and if the census was done in April, his age would have
been 12, he would have turned 13 on his birthday in September. So I am fairly certain that we
are talking about the same James as you are. Also if you go to #30 you will find that another
Hawker family member, Mary Ann is also living with her grandmother. So they had a sister as
well. I am not certain if the John in #6 is a brother, but the age is right.
Getting back to James. James married Ann King in 1863 and had a son named Arthur in
1863, I am assuming that she must have died shortly after their marraige and James must
have remarried. If you look at the 1881 census James was living at 85 High Street in
Evesham. In the 1901 census James was living with Millicent at 34 High Street and Arthur
was now living at 69 High Street. A coincidence. I don't think so. I really think they were father
and son living close to each other. In 1881 Arthur was working as a servant and was still
single. He later became a postman, and then a milkseller with his own shop.
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